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- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 22 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1496
-
- Today's Topics:
- ARLB116 Pick your call sign
- DEP May Impose Fees On YOU!
- Frequent 2m Frequencies needed
- Kraco SSB CB Information Please
- Morse Code blues
- Portable Repeater Help
- Rechargable Alkaline Batteries
- Surplus Elec. store in Cleveland
- Where are all the young enthusiasts? (2 msgs)
-
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-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 12:22:50 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcom.com!marcbg@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: ARLB116 Pick your call sign
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB QST @ ARL $ARLB116
- ARLB116 Pick your call sign
-
- ZCZC AG58
- QST de W1AW
- ARRL Bulletin 116 ARLB116
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Dec 93 15:07:56 GMT
- From: dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!pilot.njin.net!magliaco@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: DEP May Impose Fees On YOU!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB NJHAM @ ALLUSA $DEPE1
- DEP May Impose Fees on YOU!
-
- The Department of Environmental Protection and Energy in New Jersey is
- proposing a fee pertaining to owners of RF generating devices. In summary,
- the proposed rule will require the owners of sources of radio frequency
- and microwave radiation between the frequencies of 300 KHz and 100 GHz
- that have the potential of exposing either workers or the general public
- to radiation levels in excess of the regulatory limits specified in
- N.J.A.C. 7:28-42 _Radio Frequency Radiation_ and all owners of radio
- frequency and microwave heaters, sealers and industrial ovens to register
- those sources with the Department within 60 calendar days after the
- effective date of this rule.
-
- The owners of all units that are subject to this rule shall be assessed an
- initial registration fee and will be required to provide technical
- information to the Department. After the first year of the program, the
- owners of registered units will be assessed an annual renewal fee. The
- amounts of the proposed fee are based on the services to be performed by
- the Department. A copy of the Department's calculations of the initial
- and annual renewal fee is available for inspection by the public at the
- Bureau of Environment Radiation, 729 Alexander Road, Princeton, New Jersey.
- The Department requests that any interested person telephone to make an
- appointment to review the documents.
-
- A public hearing to discuss the rule will be held on January 11, 1994,
- beginning at 9:30 AM, in the Department's Public Hearing Room, 401 East
- State Street, Trenton, New Jersey. The Department will accept comments
- on the proposed regulations until January 20, 1994. Comments should be
- addressed to Janis E. Hoagland, Esq., Administrative Practice Officer,
- New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection and Energy, Office of
- Legal Affairs, CN 402, Trenton, New Jersey, 08625-0402. If you have any
- questions regarding the applicability of this rule to your organization,
- you may contact Ms. Deborah Wenke with Radiation Protection Programs at
- 609-987-2101.
-
-
- Radio Frequency Protection Guides (RFPG) for whole body exposure
-
-
- Maximum Allowed Maximum Allowed Equivalent
- Mean Squared Mean Squared Plane Wave
- Frequency Electric Field Magnetic Field Power Density
- Range Strength (V/m)^2 Strength (A/m)^2 mW/cm^2
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- 300 KHz-3 MHz 400,000 2.5 100
- 3 MHz - 30 MHz 4,000 (900/f) 0.025 (900/f) 900/f
- 30 MHz-300 MHz 4,000 0.025 1.0
- 300 MHz-1.5 GHz 4,000 (f/300) 0.025 (f/300) f/300
- 1.5 GHz-100 GHz 20,000 0.125 5.0
-
-
- Notes:
-
- 1) f - frequency (MHz)
- 2) For near field exposure, both the mean squared electric and magnetic
- strengths shall be determined.
- 3) For frequencies below 300 MHz, both the mean squared electric and
- magnetic field strengths shall be determined.
- 4) At frequencies above 300 MHz, either the mean squared electric or
- magnetic field strengths shall be determined.
- 5) The applicable RFPG shall be averaged over any 0.1 hour interval.
- 6) Meansurement to determine adherence to the RFPG shall be made at
- distances 5 cm or greater from any object.
- 7) Where electromagnetic fields are present at more than one frequency or
- for broadband fields, the fraction of the RFPG incurred within each
- frequency interval shall be detrmined and the sum of all such fractions
- shall not exceed unity.
-
-
- Although initial and annual registration fees are not outlined for Amateur
- Stations, Amateur Radio is mentioned in several sections of the DEPE
- proposal as being a significant source of radio frequency radiation that
- poses health risks to the general public. As a reference, the median fee
- for commercial users will be approximately $500 per antenna if this proposal
- is passed.
-
- The proposed new rules will provide the Department with the financial and
- informational resources it needs to enforce the radio frequency radiation
- protection provisions of N.J.A.C. 7:28-42 and are therefore expected to have
- a positive social impact. The more familar applications of radio frequency
- radiation are AM and FM radio, television, amateur radio, microwave ovens,
- radar, microwave point-to-point and ground-to-satellite telecommunications
- links, and other communications services. Radio frequency and microwave
- sources are also widely used in industrial heating and sealing operations.
- The steady increase in the number of these sources, coupled with a better
- understanding of their biological effects on human beings, has heightened
- concerns in the scientific community and in the public about the potential
- adverse health effects from exposure to this type of radiation.
-
- Nonionizing radiation sources have steadily increased in number and their
- uses have so diversified that a general increase in radiation levels in
- the environment has occurred. Extensive radio frequency radiation
- measurements made by the EPA have shown that the sources most likely to
- produce the highest environmental levels are television and radio broadcast
- stations. Other significant, but less intense, sources of radio frequency
- radiation are transmitting satellite earth station antennas, microwave
- point-to-point communications antennas, cellular telephone cell-site antenna
- base stations, amateur radio stations, navigational aids and radar.
- Radio frequency heaters and sealers are generally located indoors and it
- is not currently known how intense the radiation emmitted by these is
- outside the buildings in which they are housed. Because the new proposed
- rules will support a staff to ensure that all of the aforementioned sources
- are in compliance with the radiation limits set forth in N.J.A.C. 7:28-42,
- the new rule will have positive impact of reducing the levels of nonionizing
- radiation in the environment.
-
- I suggest that comments be directed directly to the Department of
- Environmental Protection and Energy of New Jersey as outlined above.
-
- Those outside New Jersey aren't out of the clear on this issue because if
- this proposal passes, it could be justification for a national ruling on
- radio frequency radiation that could KILL Amateur Radio for good!
-
-
- 73, de John, KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA
-
- /EX
- --
- John A. Magliacane, KD2BD * /\/\ * Voice : 1-908-224-2948
- Advanced Technology Center |/\/\/\| Packet : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA
- Brookdale Community College |\/\/\/| Internet: kd2bd@ka2qhd.ocpt.ccur.com
- Lincroft, NJ 07738 * \/\/ * Morse : -.- -.. ..--- -... -..
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 13:59:51 -0700
- From: orca.es.com!cnn.sim.es.com!msanders.sim.es.com!user@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Frequent 2m Frequencies needed
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1993Dec19.144850.5669@newstand.syr.edu>,
- feliccia@mothra.syr.edu (Nicholas J Feliccia) wrote:
-
- >
- > WHAT ARE THE MOST USED 2M FREQUENCIES
- >
- >
- > Hi there everybody.
- >
- > I just put a New 2M mobile set up in my Car a Yaesu FT 411.
- >
- > I am planning to take a trip across several metropolitan regions
- > and really don't want to be distracted from band scanning by getting
- > hung up on intermods and carriers and so forth, so I was wondering;
- >
- > A LONG time ago i saw posted on here a list of the most used 2m
- > repeater frequencies in the country; Maybe it wasn't on here
- > or maybe it was on QST. Wherever I remeber it I am sure that such
- > a list exists out there and I would like to know if anyone
- > could send it to me.
-
-
- Hey Nick!
-
- For $6.95 you can get the entire US 2M repeater directory from ARRL. I got
- mine in the local radio store here. Then you would never be without a
- guide to wherever you may be going.
-
- Milt
- --
- =========================================================================
-
- Opinions, thoughts, &cetera are my own (when I can remember them).
-
- "He flies the sky KB7MSF
- Like an Eagle in the eye UTAH
- of a hurricane that's abandoned."
-
- America
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 02:12:29 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcomsv!bongo!skyld!jangus@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Kraco SSB CB Information Please
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- And in a followup to the original poster of the help request, I've
- sent this simple message (after a couple of get to know ya's first)
-
- > The model number is KB-2355.
- >
- > It's a 23-channel SSB base station CB.
- >
- > I have an Antron 99 and ground plane, the match is 1:1.
- >
- > I'd just like to peak it up to the legal maximum. I don't
- > want to run heat, but I want to get every little ounce I
- > can under the four watt limit. Thanks.
- >
-
- Has anyone explained power ratios to you?
-
- Here's a tech note (from me to you): Power ratios (or dB as they're called).
-
- 5 watts RF output power is the maximum legal power output
- as measured into a 50 ohm load. Decibels or dB are a measure
- of ratio. If you increase your power from 5 watts to 10 watts
- the ratio is 2. In dB the number is 3. This is derived with
- logarithmic methods.
-
- 10 * log(10) power(a)/power(b)
-
- If you look at your S-meter on the radio, it is calibrated in
- S-units from 1 to 9 and above 9 in 10 dB increments. Each S-unit
- is typically (or should be) 6 dB or the equalivant of a 4 times
- increase in signal power.
-
- If for example, you are only S-7 on your buddy'sradio, to get
- to S-8 (and this assumes your radio is putting out 4 watts now
- you would need to increase your output to 16 watts. And again,
- from 16 to 64 to get to S-9. A 10 dB increase is equavilant to
- a 10 times power increase, so then (starting again at 4 watts and
- S-7) to get to 10 dB over S-9 would require a total increase from
- 4 watts to 640 watts.
-
- The quickest and easiest way to increase the effective radiated
- power (E.R.P.) of your station is to see to it that the powr you do
- put out goes in a direction that makes a difference. Obviously with
- a vertical antenna, most of the power goes every where else but to
- the person you wish to talk with. A simple dipole with split the
- power evenly from towards and away from your target. More elaberate
- antennas (Heh heh, Moon rakers etc) are just better at directing
- all (well actually most) of the power in a single direction.
-
- Now, back to your radio. Assume that it puts out 4 watts. If you
- peak things up to where it puts out the legal 5 watt max, you have
- about 1 dB of effective improvement. (Note your radio would have to
- be down to 1.25 watts to be a single S-unit below what 5 watts would
- result in.)
-
- Still want to poke around in the radio? Do you have the service manual
- for it? Although most of these radios are generic once you open them up,
- I like to have a road map that matches the radio before I start twisting
- knobs and things.
-
- Have a nice evening...
- Jeff
-
- P.S. I'm posting this followup to the rec.radio.amateur newsgroup as a
- sample of cooperation instead of the usual elitism shown towards others.
-
-
- Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA | "It is difficult to imagine our
- Internet: jangus@skyld.tele.com | universe run by a single omni-
- US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749 | potent god. I see it more as a
- Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080 | badly run corporation."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Dec 93 16:05:03 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Morse Code blues
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Text item: Text_1
-
- >CQ CQ CQ DE N0YAX N0YAX N0YAX QRS K Come on guys, help out us new
- >ppl struggling with the code!
-
- For me, 5 wpm is fun and 15 wpm is reserved for contests. I make
- contact with Novices who speed up when they hear my call. I often
- ask them to QRS.
-
- For people who refuse to slow down, I sometimes respond to their
- rudeness by coming back with a computer generated 40 wpm to show them
- what it feels like. Funny thing, hardly any of them come back after
- that.
-
- See you on 40m at 5 wpm... Cecil, kg7bk@indirect.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 20:39:08 GMT
- From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate!nuntius@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Portable Repeater Help
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- A friend and I are having a wonderful time playing with ham radio
- projects. We started with a couple of antenna projects and we are moving
- up into the bigger (read expensive) projects. We are currently building
- a dual band 2mtr/70cm amp for mobile (or base) operation. We allowed
- our imagination to run some and thought having a portable repeater might
- be over some use.
- So we have most all the parts required to fab a repeater, and would
- love any constructive idea's to help us along. One big part we lack is
- the duplexer. If anyone has plans for one we would love to look them
- over. If anyone has a set of cavities, we would entertain the thought of
- purchasing them.
- The current plan is to put the amps in a 20mm ammo can and the
- duplexers and control circuitry in another ammo can and interconnect them
- to make a repeater. With luck we will have room for the 12volt deep
- cycle rv battery!
- We have read through the ARRL handbook and the antenna handbook, but
- still have some questions on the best approach. So if this is a project
- you worked your way through please drop us a note.
-
- Thanks
- Rick Aldom
- ayka60@email.sps.mot.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 20 Dec 93 16:16:47
- From: idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org!idacrd!n4hy@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Rechargable Alkaline Batteries
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- They are just terrific. I have not had one yet that did not exceed their
- very conservatively rated capacity. They last about twice as long as
- a NICAD. The batteries never get hot in the recharger. On my CD, a pair
- of AA's lasts about 8 hours. I am very pleased with them so far.
-
- Bob
-
- --
- Robert W. McGwier | n4hy@ccr-p.ida.org Interests: ham radio,
- Center for Communications Research | scouts, astronomy, golf (o yea, & math!)
- Princeton, N.J. 08520 | ASM Troop 5700, ACM Pack 53 Hightstown
- (609)-279-6240(v) (609)-924-3061(f)| I used to be a Buffalo . . . NE III-120
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Dec 93 14:36:29 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Surplus Elec. store in Cleveland
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I recall several years ago when I was in Cleveland OH that there was
- an electronics surplus type place in downtown Cleveland. Was that
- possibly Western electronics (or something like that) ? Does anyone out
- there know about this place or the correct name and location ?
-
-
- Seth KC2WE
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Dec 93 15:22:03 GMT
- From: ogicse!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Where are all the young enthusiasts?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- On Wed, 22 Dec 1993 06:07:22 GMT, John Reed wrote:
-
- >.......
- >MMy club as yet to give me the respect that I deserve as a member and as a
- >person..everytime I open my mouth at a meeting, I'm met with a "That's nice
- >son" attitude and a motion to shut up... I'm cut off in mid sentence, etc...
- >
- >I don't if other clubs are like that with their new young hams, but mine is
- >bad...
- >
- >Some of these old phartes need to learn that us new hams have plenty to offer
- >and in no way are we threatening to the establishment... I've done plenty for
-
- <much deleted>
-
- A data point.
- They are out there, but something or someone has to draw their
- interest. With the advances in electronics and communications, the
- fascination of the crystal radio isn't the attraction it once was. I first
- became acquanted with ham radio when a fellow student set up his rig
- at a research site we were working at one summer (now 20 years ago). He
- strung a dipole antenna between two lighting rods, and he was on the
- air. We had a great time just watching and listening to him work the
- bands (voice). But due to -many- other activities and interests, it was
- never something I pursued (like I really need another hobby....).
- It looks like I, and six to eight 11 and 12 year olds, may soon have
- one, though. Tonight we take the written Novice exam, on our way to the
- Tech No-code. My son's scoutmaster holds a General ticket, and for
- several years (it could be *many* - he's been scoutmaster of this troop
- for 25) he has been offering ham classes to any interested scouts. He
- piqued my interest again when he worked the "Jamboree on the Air" from our
- campsite in the Shawnee National Forest in southern Illinois. So when my
- son (11) said he wanted to take the ham classes, I thought "here's my
- opportunity", and it's a great father/son thing to boot. I asked if I
- could sit in (the more the merrier - I'm not the first father to do it).
- So we have been meeting once a week since October, going through the
- question pool. The boys have been able to see and feel real equipment,
- listen to transmission, and see packet radio in operation. Most will
- probably not go on to learn code, because the idea of immediate
- communication on 2m is more attractive right now. But so what? They all
- will have learned some basic electric theory and have some understanding
- of antennas, radios, and radio transmissions. The opportunity to
- learn code will be available to them if they want it. Some will go much
- further.
- John's type of experience is what discourages young enthusiasts. The
- older hams with "attitude" have to realize that these aren't the "good old
- days" any more. Electronics and communcations capabilities have improved
- exponentially in the past 30 years. 11 and 12 year old kids today know as
- much about computers as the older hams once knew about radios when they
- were that age.
- My son's troop now has numerous licensed hams, although I don't know
- how many are active. I do know that several have joined the local amateur
- club and try to be active in that. And, it's all due to one "older" ham
- taking the time and effort to interest some kids in the hobby.
- So, if everything goes well, we will all pass our Element 2 exam
- tonight. Wish us luck!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 13:37:11 -0700
- From: orca.es.com!cnn.sim.es.com!msanders.sim.es.com!user@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Where are all the young enthusiasts?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <drew.95.0@trl.oz.au>, drew@trl.oz.au (Drew Diamond) wrote:
-
- > Is there no longer any "magic" in radio for young persons? At my radio
- > club, I see the same bunch of (mostly) grey and balding heads- rare to see a
- > young, enthusiastic person attend a meeting. And on the air- same bunch of
- > grey beards- not many young voices.
- >
- [snip some]
- >
- > 73, Kind Regards,
- >
- > Drew, VK3XU. Telecom Australia Research Laboratories.
-
-
- Yea and Hooray! My area has loads of young voices, even a couple with
- advanced and extra licenses.
-
- I can hardly keep track of my HT because my 12 year old covets it and even
- hides it in his room at night (KB7ZIU). My 22 year old (KB7ZIV) is not
- quite so ambitious. Come on Christmas! so I can let them tear the
- wrappings off their Alinco DJ-180T's!!!! I want my radio back. My 12 yr
- old uses the packet station like he was born under it, talks with oldsters
- and youngsters alike, and is now studying his code. Heaven help my HF rig
- when he gets his code!! I am looking for a backup rig I can put in his
- room and another HF antenna for the roof!
-
- We have lots of other 8-16 year olds that ride the airwaves and not only
- get a kick out of talking to each other, but all the older hams in the
- area, as well as HF DX in South America etc. KB7WIG is working on his
- general class, KB7WCV talks to us occasionally during our commute and also
- has his tech+ and a TS-520. KB7WYE got his license at 13 and is an Eagle
- Scout, talks to both me and my son when his mom is driving him to school.
- An 8 year old girl passed no code tech at the last testing session ----
- they are there guys, at least here in Utah, and we are loving it. A lot
- of these hams have dads who are also hams. And there are a new breed of
- single women as well as spouses who have gotten their licenses in the three
- valleys here in the west.
-
- We welcome the new voices and congratulate them on licenses and upgrades,
- and talk to them whenever we get the chance. Saturday night, one club
- staged a North Pole "link" with Santa Clause, and used a net control to
- have kids of hams talk to Santa over the 2M repeater. Think those kids
- will remember ham radio and a chat with Santa?
-
- My 12 year old is putting me to shame: he registered with ARES and checks
- into their net every Tues night (past his bedtime by the way), but I kinda
- look the other way.
-
- These kids are smart, pick up professional operating procedures, and often
- sound like seasoned hams, putting some of the old timers to shame who have
- picked up some poor radio habits. Don't be afraid to let the kid next
- door, or your own, talk on your radio. It seems to be habit forming.
- Don't forget to lock the gear up though, kids have a tendency to use it
- when they want, licensed or not.
-
- Cheer up Drew, and all you others. Encourage the youth, and you will get
- more than you want. Forgot to mention that many scout troops have a radio
- night, and arrange to have the scouts listen and talk on one of the
- repeaters as well as HF. Just takes some organization and some hams who
- care.
-
- Milt
-
- --
- =========================================================================
-
- Opinions, thoughts, &cetera are my own (when I can remember them).
-
- "He flies the sky KB7MSF
- Like an Eagle in the eye UTAH
- of a hurricane that's abandoned."
-
- America
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
- --
- Marc Grant
- marcbg@netcom.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Dec 93 15:50:39 GMT
- From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10!lkollar@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2f7ujfINNdsr@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu>, <2f80r0$2de@ornews.intel.com>, <1993Dec22.025635.9347@mulvey.com>
- Subject : Re: Morse Code blues
-
- rich@mulvey.com writes:
-
- > [the guy on the other end of the QSO was sending REAL slow...] Of
- >course, every time he tried to turn the conversation around, he sent
- >his call again at 13wpm. :-)
-
- I've done that before... once I knew the other guy had my call down
- right (i.e. he actually managed to send KC4WZK DE whatever), I'd speed
- way up for the ID before turning it around. Most of the time, they
- catch on to what I'm doing and respond in kind. Get the ID'ing over
- with and get on with the QSO, that's what I say.
-
-
- Slow CW is really fun when your call is KC4WZK and your QTH is Dawsonville,
- GA. :-) You can bet I only send THAT once when we're 599. :-)
-
-
- Instantly qualifying for RCC on any 5 wpm QSO, I am --
- --
- Larry Kollar, KC4WZK | I like CW, but that doesn't mean I think every ham
- lkollar@nyx.cs.du.edu | should have to learn it.
- "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog."
-
- ------------------------------
-
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